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Jul 14, 2020

It was an honour for EMEA Recruitment to welcome Roger Martin as a guest on our podcast recently.

In 2017, Roger Martin was named the world’s #1 management thinker by Thinkers50, a biannual ranking of the most influential global business thinkers. He was ranked 2nd, 3rd, 6th and 7th in the other ranking years over the past decade.

Roger is a trusted strategy advisor to the CEOs of companies worldwide including Procter & Gamble, Lego and Ford.

Roger has written 12 books and 28 Harvard Business Review articles. His newest book is When More is Not Better: Overcoming America’s Obsession with Economic Efficiency (Harvard Business Review Press, 2020). His previous 11 books include: Creating Great Choices written with Jennifer Riel (HBRP, 2017), Getting Beyond Better written with Sally Osberg (HBRP, 2015) and Playing to Win written with A.G. Lafley (HBRP, 2013); Fixing the Game (HBRP, 2011); The Design of Business (HBRP, 2009); The Opposable Mind (HBRP, 2007); and The Responsibility Virus (Basic Books, 2002). Both Getting Beyond Better and Playing to Win won best book awards at Thinkers 50.

In this podcast we cover:

  • Being named the world’s number one management thinker 03:42
  • Roger’s journey and what has led him to his career 04:02
  • Lessons from life 10:24
  • What connects Roger’s writing and the importance of thinking differently 14:30
  • Difficult decisions 15:35
  • How Roger helps CEOs frame up choices 17:23
  • Applying theories and techniques on leadership 21:30
  • Roger’s new book - When More Is Not Better 22:35
  • Roger’s thoughts on the implications of business analytics and data 26:27
  • Aristotle and Cause and Effect 27:11
  • Some of the problems with using business analytics 30:07
  • How COs react to Roger’s advice 38:03
  • Interrogating and articulating your gut feeling 44:00
  • Roger’s mentors 53:12
  • Why writing is thinking 57:46
  • How to connect with Roger 1:04:24

We hope you enjoy the podcast and look forward to seeing your comments and shares. 

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The podcast is hosted by founder of EMEA; Paul Toms and Executive Recruiter and Senior Consultant; Jenny Callum.


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